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#: 1 S0/SYSOP
    20-Jan-88  09:46:06
Sb: Test
Fm: Sharon Baker 70006,256
To: SYSOP (X)

Testing, testing.



#: 3 S0/SYSOP
    04-Feb-88  14:00:25
Sb: Here's Another One
Fm: Product Manager 70006,256
To: *Sysop (X)

Please leave this message in your forum.



#: 5 S1/General Information
    03-Mar-88  17:10:52
Sb: Hello from Seattle
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: All

Wow!  Great... a forum on CD-ROM!  Just what the doctor ordered!

I'm here in Seattle right now on the last day of the MicroSoft conference, and
I'll try to log back on later on and post some thoughts and observations, not
to mention news from the conference.  There's a lot of excitement in the air.

I'm Raines Cohen of BMUG, Inc., the world's largest independent nonprofit
Macintosh Users Group.  The folks at Discovery Systems at the show told me
about this forum, so I came over to investigate.  This is my first conference
here, but probably not the last... we announced a CD-ROM product here (I'll
post a note about it in the next message) and we're looking at really getting
involved in the technology.

People really seem to be saying that CD-ROM is "more than a medium" --- after
all, you don't see thousands of people flocking to annual floppy disk
conferences!  What is actually going on is far deeper... it is lots of people
in many different fields realizing that CD-ROM and related technologies bring
advances in storage capacity that can help make many other areas possible.

I hope that this forum will help to discuss many of these new concepts and
technologies, as well as CD-ROM itself.  There's so much going on! ...

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 6 S2/Conference/Seminars
    03-Mar-88  17:19:36
Sb: The BMUG PD ROM(tm)
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: All

March 1, 1988
 For Immediate Release

Contact: Stephen Howard
 (415) 549-BMUG

BMUG to Produce PD ROM(tm)

Seattle, WA - BMUG, Inc. announced today that it will publish a special
anthology of its shareware library on CD ROM. This product, called the BMUG PD
ROM(tm), will include public domain (PD) software and shareware as well as
digests of public messages from selected electronic services. The PD ROM will
give an individual easy access to the several hundred megabytes of software and
information which would previously have been difficult and expensive to store
and maintain.

Through an agreement with Discovery Systems, a publisher of compact disc
products based in Dublin, Ohio, the anthology should be available for under
$100 retail. "We were fortunate to team up with a publisher who shares our goal
of delivering this material to the users as inexpensively as possible, like we
do with our floppy-disk-based library of over 150 disks available at $3 each.
BMUG is not looking at this project as a money-maker for the group; we're
producing the PD ROM as a public service to the community. The disc ties in
nicely with BMUG's Registration Assistance Program ('the BMUG RAP', where we
pay the postage and help deliver Shareware registration checks), to help both
shareware users and authors."

The PD ROM will be designed for use with Apple's today-announced CD SC compact
disk drive and HyperCard system software. The contents of the disc have been
drawn from a wealth of available material and will be tested and screened prior
to publication. "I think it's great, too," said Marsh Williams of Discovery
Systems, "the price and utility of this product make it a terrific value for
every Mac CD ROM user."

BMUG, the world's largest independent non-profit Macintosh users group, is well
known for its excellent member services and publications. The semi-annual BMUG
Newsletter contains over 300 pages of candid, informative articles and is
widely read by novice users and industry leaders alike. Discovery Systems is a
full-service publisher and manufacturer of compact disc products for
professional audio and computer use.

For more information:



#: 7 S0/SYSOP
    08-Mar-88  15:44:02
Sb: #Bulletins
Fm: Product Manager 70006,256
To: *Sysop (X)

Ty,

I have enabled the membership for your forum.  I think it would be a good idea
to go in and edit the bulletins to reflect the current day.  This will give a
good impression to all of your new members!

If there are any other questions that you might have, please feel free to
contact me!

Susan
Forum Support

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#: 8 S0/SYSOP
    09-Mar-88  11:16:58
Sb: #7-Bulletins
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Product Manager 70006,256

Susan -

Did you mean that the date in the message should be revised daily, or just
brought up to date (9 March)?  I put the date in there to serve as a "last
revised" marker, so the reader could quickly determine if he/she needed to read
further.

-Ty



#: 9 S1/General Information
    11-Mar-88  23:53:06
Sb: #Xiphias
Fm: Peter Black 74240,265
To: all

Hello, We are Xiphias, the people who announced Xearch an XCMD search engine
for Hypercard at the Microsoft CD-ROM Conference. We also are preparing a
Hypercard based CD-ROM publication called Time Table of Science and
IInnovation, for release at the same time Apple ships their drive. We want to
be an active participant in this business, and look forward to hearing from
y'all.

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#: 10 S1/General Information
    14-Mar-88  11:02:19
Sb: #AppleCD SC Announcements
Fm: Joel Nagy 76701,232
To:  76701,231 (X)

Ty --I've uploaded four press releases about the new Apple drive to DL1. Each
has a slightly different slant because they were prepared for different
audiences. Together they cover most of the usual (totally non-technical)
points. So far, they're about all that's out there on this product. --- Joel

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#: 11 S1/General Information
    15-Mar-88  14:16:41
Sb: #10-AppleCD SC Announcements
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Joel Nagy 76701,232 (X)

Joel -
  Thanks for the upload.  I have a few more releases that should be arriving in
the next day or so.  Will get yours up this P.M.
                                                         -Ty



#: 12 S1/General Information
    16-Mar-88  01:36:19
Sb: #Hypercard and CD-ROM
Fm: Peter Black 74240,265
To: all

For those of you who are interested XIPHIAS has created an XCMD for Hypercard
which functions as a search engine, and a replacement for the string search
facilities normally associated with FIND.

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#: 13 S1/General Information
    16-Mar-88  19:56:36
Sb: #Just a quick hello!
Fm: Dave Stabley 70007,2344
To: ALL

Hello!  Having been deeply involved in the CDROM technology two years, it is
gratifying to find this new SIG on the service. I am the head of  product
development for INGRAM SOFTWARE, one of the largest software and hardware
distributors in the world.  We are now engaged in the distribution of CDROM
titles and hardware to our dealer base.  We are constantly looking for new and
innovative products to add to that mix. I will look forward to stopping by the
SIG to see what is new and great in the technology from your point of view.
 Until that time, Sincerely, Dave Stabley

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#: 14 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  06:24:39
Sb: #New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: all

Hello! I'm with Maxim Technologies in Vienna, Virginia; we have been in the
optical disk area for about three years, concentrating on retrieval of
information from very large full-text data bases stored on 5 1/4 and 12 inch
WORMs. We also have developed a linked image/text system which allows the user
to search on text and then display a high-resolution digitized image of the
appropriate pages. Our systems are based on Arete and Sun Unix machines and on
Compa386 PCs.

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#: 15 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  09:46:09
Sb: #CD ROM proposals
Fm: Edward Schneider 76137,572
To: all

What tack would you take to propose to the publisher of a standard reference
work that the work be made available on CD ROM?  I am thinking specifically of
the New Grove Dictionary of Music..., which I know was written recently enough
that it presumably exists already in electronic form.

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#: 16 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  10:08:16
Sb: #Me, a new member
Fm: Mark Sterling 74335,1677
To: All

   This is just a note to say hello and to state my personal interests in
CD-Roms.  I use an Amiga, PC clones and a TI mini (BS672A) in my business and
am interested in CD-roms as well as Worms.  The Amiga should be given attention
as it is a great machine for graphics which require great amounts of storage.
Scsi interfaces are available for the Amiga so that CD-Roms should be useable
without a lot of development.  Another factor is that the sales of Amigas has
really taken off with the introduction of two new models (the A500 and the
A2000).
   I am looking forward to hearing about developments for all types of
machines; I am not stuck on the Amiga.
......Mark

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#: 17 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  10:33:41
Sb: #CDROM
Fm: Apple Tech Comm 70007,3366
To: all

This looks great! It almost seems like the best way to determine whether or not
a tech nology is "real" or not is just to check and see if a forum has taken
shape on CompuServe. We are very excited about this technology and about our
new CD ROM drive and have great hopes for it.  Forums like this are essential
to the technologies success.  We wish you (this forum) a long and prosperous
life. -Apple Technical Communications

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#: 18 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  11:07:58
Sb: #9-#Xiphias
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Peter Black 74240,265 (X)

Peter,

   Hi!  I'm a science teacher running an actual NASA spaceflight project for
high school students in Virginia. I'm new to CD technology, and quite
interested in CD's available in all science related fields. I would like to
investigate many interdisciplinary and integrated uses for CD ROM technology in
education, so any info you could provide on your disks would be welcome. We are
currently using the full range of Mac hardware in our program, with hypercard.
I would be willing to share your information with other educators, since I am
fortunate to be the NASA Teacher In Space finalist from Virginia, and one of
the 5 Christa McAuliffe Educators in the U.S. CD ROM technology is one of the
latest tools we wish to learn to use and teach with. Thanks for your help...

    Ron

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#: 19 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  11:13:48
Sb: #13-Just a quick hello!
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Dave Stabley 70007,2344

Hello back to you, Dave!

I'm looking forward to learning alot from you folks. Refer to message 18 to
Peter Black about my interests...see you online.

   Ron



#: 20 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  11:15:57
Sb: Howdy
Fm: rolfe windward 70014,646
To: All

   It's about time ... I'm glad to see a forum on CDROM at last ... it's been a
lonely trip t'ill now.
   I'm an educator with interests in CDROM as an "online" data base ...
in-house (on stand alone machines and on network) and on a school BBS which I
run.  Current uses are via a special grant through ISLE (library) ... potential
vendor support is from OnLine Services (4-8 channel CDROM interface using
primarily Sony devices).
  I'll make this a "regular" stop from now on.
                                                chiao <<RW>>



#: 21 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  11:17:43
Sb: #14-#New Member
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Hi Allen,

   The only thing I know about WORM is what it stand for, but I'm learning
fast. (Please refer to message 18 to Peter Black about my interests) Can you
tell me what the status is on research with WORM technology? Most of my
associates wonder about the future availability of read/write/erase CD
technology...is that way down the road?

   Ron

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#: 22 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  11:21:53
Sb: #17-CDROM
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Apple Tech Comm 70007,3366 (X)

I'm really looking forward to previewing your CD ROM drive - I may have a
chance within a month to visit Cupertino with the Christa McAuliffe Institute
(see message 18). Having used hypercard extensively, I'm quite anxious to test
out software which utilizes the intuitive Mac interface with mass storage.

   Ron



#: 23 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  11:57:03
Sb: #Greetings, hackers!
Fm: Carlo Stonebanks 71411,15
To: ALL

Hello from Montreal - the best city in the known universe, with the most
beautiful women on Earth. I am the head of a technical department for the
Federal Business Development Bank. We have an IBM PC/XT/AT & clones
environment, and have had very little positive dealings with CDROM as yet. I
notice that most of you are Apple users, and I'm hoping that someone with
experience relevent to ours will read this. Our problems so far: We MUST have a
stable standard for disk technology. Who's winning? Same for operating system
concerns: the software must NOT patch the operating system and not be minor
version number specific. We are working with Microsoft & Lattice C with
Softcraft Btrieve, and are looking for an application with library functions
that can be called by C. Though we are looking for a system with a user access
level available, we need the low level system library. WHO CAN HELP?

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#: 24 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  14:54:46
Sb: #Hello
Fm: Chris Pearman 75136,1640
To: All

Hello everybody.  I am Chris Pearman and I'm not really big on CD-ROM's yet
(being a college student I can't afford one, but I like the technology). I just
wanted to ask a quick question.  In the April '88 issue of Popular Science,
there was a short article saying that Verbatim has come up with an erasable
optical disk that will hold 50 megabytes of information.  They said that it
could be introduced as early as mid 1988 and in full production in a year or
two.  Does anyone know anything else about this, like what kind of interface it
will use, list price, etc.?  Thanks in advance for the help. Chris Pearman.
P.S.  I just wanted to say that I think this forum is a great idea!

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#: 25 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  15:07:02
Sb: #24-Hello
Fm: Chris Pearman 75136,1640
To: Chris Pearman 75136,1640 (X)

Sorry, I realized after I posted this message that they probably meant that
only the disks would be in production, not drives, so a revised question list:
How long do you think it will be before drives to use this disk will become
available and how much can we expect to have to pay for an erasable cd drive?
Thanks again. Chris.



#: 26 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    17-Mar-88  17:44:57
Sb: #new member
Fm: Schneider 71261,1746
To: cdrom

Hello friends, I'm pleased to notice the presence of a CD-ROM forum. As a blind
person I have great hope in CD-ROM technology to help us to overcome the lack
of litterature of any kind available in digital on digital storage media. best
regards to everybody aArnold Schneider

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#: 27 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:16:10
Sb: #intro
Fm: Paul Pignatelli 76367,2721
To: all

I am a professional linguist and simultaneous interpreter.  I am also a
registered investment advisor.  Once upon a time I worked at bell labs on image
processing.

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#: 28 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:25:10
Sb: #13-Just a quick hello!
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Dave Stabley 70007,2344

Welcome to the forum, Dave.  I'm always glad to hear about more folks who are
trying to get people interested in CDROM.  Discovery Systems (which happens to
be where I work) has put together some "sampler" discs which have been
distributed at trade shows and via Amdek distributors.  One is for the PC, is
in High Sierra format, and contains some fancy EGA graphics.  It also takes
advantage of the audio capability that many of the new CDROM players are coming
with.  Another is in Macintosh HFS format, contains some Hypercard stacks and
graphics/sound demos, and also has some CD audio tracks.  If you are
interested, send me an EasyPlex and I'll connect you up with the marketing
folks.

Bye for now.



#: 29 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:32:22
Sb: #14-#New Member
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Welcome to the forum, Allen.  WORMs seem to be great discs for large, single
copy media.  However, distributing a hundred copies of one could get pretty
expensive.  We've had clients build their files on a WORM drive, then send us
the disc for use in building a CDROM image for distribution purposes.  From the
looks of the messages, you'll find a number of people interested in WORM
technology here. Hope we can do things for you.

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#: 30 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:45:42
Sb: #16-#Me, a new member
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Mark Sterling 74335,1677 (X)

Welcome to the forum, Mark.  Apple has just announced a SCSI CDROM drive for
the Macintosh (see DLI:APCDSC), and I heard a rumor at the last Comdex that
Commodore was pursuing CDROM drivers for the Amiga.  All the major
manufacturers now (or soon will) are delivering SCSI drives, and the Microsoft
CDROM Extensions (which come with new drives and they are available from other
sources, such as Discovery Systems, for people with a Philips CM100, Hitachi
CDR1502/3, or Sony CDU100) make access to discs in High Sierra format simple.
DEC has their RRD50 drive, and has announced support for ISO/9660 (the
international version of High Sierra that is in the process of being adopted
and which will be published this spring).  And there's lots more...stay tuned.

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#: 31 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:49:25
Sb: #17-CDROM
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Apple Tech Comm 70007,3366 (X)

Thanks for stopping by.  Your folks made a big splash at the CDROM Conference,
and John Sculley made a great "visionary" presentation. Hope you'll stop by
every once in a while.



#: 32 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  18:57:11
Sb: #18-#Xiphias
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306 (X)

We had the good fortune to be able to use Apple's new CDROM drive in our booth
at the CDROM Conference in Seattle.  It's a good feeling to finally have a
computer manufacturer backing the technology now. At $1199 its not the cheapest
player, but its also not a cheaply built unit.  It's solidly put together, and,
as with other new devices, the price will come down as sales pick up.  We
handed out a disc at the conference which demonstrates some Hypercard,
graphics, animation, and sound capabilities that are possible with a Mac and a
CDROM drive. Send me an EasyPlex if you're interested and I'll get you in touch
with someone who can get you a disc.

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#: 33 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  19:11:47
Sb: #23-Greetings, hackers!
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Carlo Stonebanks 71411,15

Welcome, Carlo.  Right now, the "winner" in the standards area is ISO/9660 or
High Sierra (ISO/9660 is the international version that has a few minor
changes).  Microsoft is backing it - the CDROM Extensions that are now out
allow you to access such discs using standard I/O calls (read, open, close,
seek), and there is a well defined interface for doing "low level" calls for
higher performance I/O or audio control.  We just released a Lattice C (for
now) compatible toolkit for working with graphics files and audio on a CDROM.
A (slightly outdated and to be revised this spring) version of the NISO wording
describing the ISO/9660 format is in the data libraries.  DEC has announced
support for ISO/9660, Apple is developing a driver for High Sierra, and version
2 of the Microsoft drivers are due out in April or May (that version will
handle both ISO/9660 and High Sierra - current one only handles the latter).
Hope this helps.



#: 34 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  19:21:57
Sb: #15-#CD ROM proposals
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Edward Schneider 76137,572 (X)

Welcome to the forum, Edward.  Can you give more info about the New Grove
Dictionary of Music?  Offhand, it sounds like something a Hypercard interface,
with digitized sound selections, could do a lot for.  But what is the market?

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#: 35 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  19:47:08
Sb: EXPERT SYSTEMS ON CDROM
Fm: RON STEINER 76456,1624
To: ALL

MY COMPANY IS INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING AND USING EXPERT SYSTEMS TO HELP
DETERMINE THE ELECTRONIC COMPONENT NEEDS OF ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS.
COULD CDROMS BE USED HERE?



#: 36 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  20:05:49
Sb: #Howdy!
Fm: George Brickner 70040,104
To: ALL

  Hi, there! I'm a Software Specialist for Sears, Roebuck & Co and we are
developing a PS/2 based system that uses CD-ROMs to replace UltraFiche repair
parts lists.
  Our work stations will use the IBM 8514/A adapter to display the drawings on
a 1024 x 768 pixel screen. The work stations will be attached to a PS/2 Model
60 file server via the Token Ring LAN. The server uses Online's PS/2 adapter
card to attach the CD-ROM drives (Sony drives I think).

        Geo

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#: 37 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  20:15:16
Sb: #CD ROM
Fm: JOHN CRAFT 71465,520
To: ALL

HELLO, My name is John Craft, and i'm from Natchez MS, and have just purchased
a Hatachi CD_Rom drive.  I am a Radio Shack manager and of course , bought the
unit from the store.  Radio Shack has just picked up the Hitachi product.
thanks,

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#: 38 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  20:56:40
Sb: I'm New too
Fm: Bill Childs 71211,447
To: All

Hi,  sounds like most of you guys are way over my head but what the heck! I
read recently about Bell & Howell having developed a CDROM based system for
auto parts and appliance parts suppliers.  Anybody know about it their system,
heard it retailed for about $10,000.  I was interested in something for MUCH
less for appliance parts inventory.  I already have a COMPAQ/386 and an
inventory program but we have thousands upon thousands of parts, cross
references and links.  Be nice if somebody else had to input it all. <grin>

P.S.  looks like this might develop into an interesting fourm.



#: 39 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:03:58
Sb: #21-#New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306 (X)

WORM is here and commercially available; we have been using both 5 1/4 1~r15
megabyte and 12 in 1 gigabyte disks for two years, with excellent success.
Drives cost around $1500-2000 for 5 1/4 in devices, and around $15000 for 12
inch. 1

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#: 40 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:06:45
Sb: #29-New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

I agree; we tend to build customized systems for customers who will want to
build their own databases and have only a few copies of them. For large
quantities of standardized databases, CDROM is clearly the way to go.



#: 41 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:08:23
Sb: #30-#Me, a new member
Fm: Mark Sterling 74335,1677
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

Ty,
   Thanks for the reply.  It sounds like things are now moving pretty fast for
CD-Roms.  I saw a whole Computer Chronicles dedicated to the subject 2-3 weeks
ago.  As I see it the key is software to make the hdwe desireable.  Vertical
market niches are fine but the whole thing will take off when really useful
"common denominator" products appear for reasonable prices.  PD software
collections are a good example as well as the collection of writer's tools
available.
   I plan to keep in touch with this forum to see the latest.
....Mark

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#: 42 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:09:20
Sb: magnetoopticals
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: all

I heard today that Hitachi will bring out magnetooptical read/write disks in 5
1/4 and 12 inch form factors later this year. The 12 in. disks are supposed to
have a capacity of more than 4 gigabytes per side. Does anyone here know if
this is true and, if so, where to get more information on availability and
prices?

Also, are there any projections for the stability of data written on
magnetooptical media? WORMs of the hole-burner type seem to be pretty much
immortal (lifetime > 10 years); is this so of the m-o disks?



#: 43 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:20:24
Sb: #14-#New Member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Allen, as someone who's been involved with large full-text databases, perhaps
you can advise me on a choice of optical character recognition scanners.  I am
interested in a scanner that will quickly and accurately read typeset material.
The least expensive system I am aware of is the Kurzweil Discover which lists
for $10,000!   And it lacks a flatbed so you have to xerox bound books.  Do you
know if there's any reliable O.C.R. software for the cheap scanners?
Thanks, Mark

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#: 44 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    17-Mar-88  21:36:32
Sb: #26-new member
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Schneider 71261,1746

Hello, Arnold! I can't tell you how impressed I am about meeting you on this
forum. I have very high hopes that this optical technology along with
artificial intelligence, and multimedia approaches will be a great help to
educators and students of all ages. Looking forward to a most helpful forum.

   Ron



#: 45 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:39:04
Sb: #New Member
Fm: Kevin Conley 73336,1340
To: ALL

Hello All.  I am a new member to the forum and I am glad to see that I have a
place to goto for the lattest information on CD-ROM. I hope that this forum
will also cover CD-WORM. I work for Computer Language Research in Carrollton,
Texas.  Many of you may have heard of what we are doing.  CLR has been doing
software for the IRS Electronic Filing System.  For thoes of you who have not
heard of it, the IRS has a system where you may send your tax return directly
into the IRS computers (You have to give it to a certified preparer who sends
it).  The end result is that you get your refund back sooner. If you had sent
your return in this way, your return along with 400,000 other returns would end
up on a single, double sided, 12 inch WORM disk. That is were I come in.  I was
responsible for the design and development of the optical disk system running
on a Novel network. CLR has many other applications for the WORM drives so I
will be looking for new information on optical drives. I would be happy to
answer any questions about WORM drives and applications.  You may leave me mail
at the below user ID or leave messages for me in this forum. I am looking
forward to being an active member of the CD-ROM forum! Kevin Conley 73336,1340



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#: 46 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:40:24
Sb: #32-Xiphias
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

Thanks for the info, Ty. Do you also have some general info on Discovery
Systems, or is there a file in a DL on your company?

   Ron



#: 47 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  21:46:28
Sb: #39-#New Member
Fm: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

In my educational/scientific research environment, we would most likely be
looking at the 5 1/4 devices; what does your typical workstation look like, and
can you give me an overview of search (engine) software? Thanks....

   Ron

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#: 48 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  21:51:46
Sb: New Member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: All

Hello everyone! I'm Mark Schneider, a lawyer with the Los Angeles County Public
Defender's Office, and I'm extremely interested in the development of offline
legal databases.  I own a somewhat beefed up XT clone and have no experience
with Apple.  I've been reading CD-ROM Review since the premier issue, and I
read The New Papyrus and CD-ROM Optical Publishing, both from Microsoft Press.
I am very interested in O.C.R. scanners that will read typeset material, as
well as typewritten and graphics.  I would also like to hear from users of
off-the-shelf index/retrieval programs such as Zyindex. I am thrilled to no end
to discover this forum and look forward to participating regularly and as
actively as I can within my limited level of technical expertise (e.g. I have
nothing to say about the benefits of writing a device driver in C as opposed to
machine code!). Best wishes to all!



#: 49 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  21:57:38
Sb: #23-Greetings, hackers!
Fm: Kevin Conley 73336,1340
To: Carlo Stonebanks 71411,15

You might try Optical Storage Solutions, INC. [phone].  Talk to Brad
Baker,  They have been working with optical disks for several years now and
they have some good software that might meet your needs.  They deal with WORM
drives mostly.  Their software drivers will emulate DOS, I do not think they
have function calls into their drivers though.  I know of another company that
does. If you would like their names drop me a line and I will come up with it.
Tell Brad that I gave you his name.  If he is not around, talk to the
President, Roy Slicker,  They both know me. Kevin Conley, 73336,1340



#: 50 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  22:25:38
Sb: #New Member
Fm: Tom Hartman 76527,555
To: ALL

Hello all...I use a Macintosh II for music production here in Ft Lauderdale Fl
where I score music for TV and Radio productions..I'm interested in how CD Rom
could aid my Mac II in my work.  To be frank, I'm so green on this subject that
I'm not even positive how it would work...is this a read only medium for
prerecorded data or a storage medium out to take the place of hard disks?? I'm
new but anxious to learn.  Thanks...

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#: 51 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  22:36:32
Sb: Hello
Fm: Larry Aronson 70436,703
To: All

Hi everyone, My name is Larry Aronson and I'm a free-lance Programmer analyst
in NYC.  I have clients who are interested in CDROM for their long term
information publishing needs.  I'm also a novice HyperCard scripter and
naturally excited about the possibilities of the medium. Thanks for organizing
this.



#: 52 S3/CDROM Applications
    17-Mar-88  22:37:37
Sb: Video
Fm: Sol Rosenberg 76136,514
To: All

How about a primer on interactive video, using the newly available Hypertools?
I do corporate sales training videos, and several clients are interested in
setting up turnkey systems for interactive video... Any suggestions? PCs? Macs?
HyperCard? HyperBole?
... awaiting your insight.... /ex



#: 53 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  22:42:13
Sb: HI
Fm: Jim Oliver 76515,2457
To: ALL

Hi, ALL.  I have programmed and hassled many types of computers over the years
including a number of minis that I'd just as soon forget...  My current
specialty is microcomputer based test and control systems.  I'm familiar with
Intel and Motorola types but my Real Love is the AMIGA.  I'm interested in CD
ROM technology for the capacity and speed as well as the ramifications that
this technology has for CAI, (CAD/CAM,) information retrieval and music and
graphics work.  See Ya around...

>>>Jim



#: 54 S1/General Information
    17-Mar-88  23:23:19
Sb: #New Member
Fm: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276
To: All

  I'd like to take this opportunity to join in welcoming this new CD-ROM forum
to CompuServe.  I have often hoped something like this would evolve here.  My
name is Jon Mayo, and I'm a science/technology writer and consultant.  I've
been interested in CD-ROM technology for a little over a year now.  Several
months ago, I decided to finally take the plunge and purchased a Hitachi CD-ROM
drive along with Bookshelf and Grolier's Encyclopedia.
  Although I do tinker with Macs, the vast majority of my work is done on
IBM-PC compatible systems.  I look forward to learning more about the CD-ROM
industry in general through this forum.  Here's wishing everyone involved in
this rapidly growing industry the best of luck!

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#: 55 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  00:33:38
Sb: #XIPHIAS, XEARCH, ETC.
Fm: Peter Black 74240,265
To: ALL

Well, this one certainly looks like it will be hot. For thos{_e of you
interested in WORM drives, we just bought one from ISI. We are going to use}i
it for pre-mastering the CD-ROM app we are developing. We did a good bit of
research, and the ISI has the best software on the PC, and its controller takes
up the least space. Check out the recent article in BYTE on WORMS. We are using
TOPS to move files back and forth between MACS and PCs. The {_Application we
are wor{_king on will be published this summer under the title Time Table of
Science and Innovation (note that, Ron Fortunato and Dave Stably). It will be
done under Hypercard on the MAC. It is over 6000 stories, custom written for
Interactive media, with linked graphics and sound. We've been putting it
together since last July, and planning{_ it for years before that. All of a
sudden{_ we've got several major software publishers interested. But none of it
has happened overnight. I gave a presentation on it at the first Microsoft
CDROM conference over two years ago. We developed the XEARCH technology - an
XCMD fior Hyper{_card wh{_ich replaces the FIND command will a full-fledged
search and retrieval system, boasting full Boolean and range searching, to make
the Time Table perform decently. We're getting 70x imrovements in search speed
off of the Apple CD player. Hope to here from you }ifolks.

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#: 56 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  02:05:02
Sb: #37-#CD ROM
Fm: Mike McGroarty 73210,2353
To: JOHN CRAFT 71465,520 (X)

Like you, I just purchased a Hatachi CDROM but not from Radio Shack. I did not
know Tandy sold the item.  Anyway, I have a Tandy 1200 with DOS 2.11 and, of
course, the CDROM does not work.  Is there any way of getting the information
from Tandy on how to get the Hatachi drive to work with the Tandy 1200?  Any
help you could pass on would be nice.                     MIKE

1 Reply


#: 57 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  02:08:04
Sb: #New member
Fm: Vic Walker 72760,217
To: ALL

I'm Vic Walker, in San Bernardino, CA.  I primarily use a Macintosh SE and am
interested in CD-ROM for both the Mac and IBM/Clones.  I am in pharmacy, which
is largely a business of getting up to date information on drugs and diseases
to physicians, and getting it fast.  (We do more than count pills!)  It seems
to me that CD-ROM is an ideal resource for getting large quantities of
information out to medical libraries for a minimal cost.  Imagine having Index
Medicus on CD-ROM.  Reading Index Medicus is like searching through all 20+
volumes of my Encyclopedia Britannica to find an answer.  CD-ROM would be a
great alternative to spending my day searching through books, or alternatively,
spending my money using computerized literature search services.  Does anyone
else agree with me?
                                Vic Walker

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#: 58 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  02:42:34
Sb: #New User
Fm: Jim Bellaire 73177,1452
To: All

   Hello all, I am a new member of this forum who has been using CompuServe's
services for about two years.  My main intrest in CDROM is with maps and
encyclopedias on Disc and I am especially interested in Tandy Computer
applications.
   Currently the CDROM drives are only available for the higher level Tandy's
(3000 - 4000) but I hope they will become available for the smaller MSDOS
(Tandy 1000's) and The Color Computer.  The way I see it the more computers
that can access CDROM, the more demand there will be for up to date software
and the raw drives to go with the controllers
   My personal system is a Tandy Color Computer 3 with 512K ram and 1 5.25"
drive, 1 3.5" 720K Drive. Hopefully sometime soon I will see a CDROM card next
to my disk controller.  Nuff said.

   Thank you for starting this Forum I wish it the most success.

                   James E. Bellaire

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#: 59 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  03:00:35
Sb: #mike reid
Fm: mike reid 71460,3646
To: all

I am a new member of the forum. I am involved in marketing CDROM Products at
Dialog Information Services in Palo Alto California [phone]. We are are
major provider of online information services and are just starting to get into
the CDROM business. We have 3 of our 320+ online databases now in CDROM form. I
am interested in developing relationships with the press, 3rd party
distributors, database producers, hardware vendors, retrieval s software
vendors, and others with general interests in CDROM.

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#: 61 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    18-Mar-88  08:21:19
Sb: profile
Fm: Paul Gates 70516,420
To: all

I am Paul Gates and am interested in adding a cd-rom drive to my computer
system. My professtion -- I am a Seventh-day Adventist minister in Adrian,
Michigan. My wife and I also operate a wordprocessing business called  Private
Lines North. Besides word processing we also do database and spreadsheet
management.  My wife is also "Angel The Clown!. Computer wise I have a new
Kaypro PC30 computer with a Gemini 10x printer and also a Royal typewriter
(model 5005) that I have interfaced so I can use it as a printer.  I am not new
to computing as I have been dappling with computers since 83.



#: 62 S3/CDROM Applications
    18-Mar-88  08:23:53
Sb: SIGN-ON
Fm: john w. stokes 76067,1641
To: ALL

I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING INFO ON THIS FORUM. I AM THE PUBLIC
RELATIONS/MARKETING DIRECTOR FOR A LARGE UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER AND HAVE A
PARTICULAR INTEREST IN EXPLORING CDROM APPLICATIONS FOR MARKET DATA STORAGE.



#: 64 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  10:41:50
Sb: NEW MEMBER INTRO..
Fm: TOM SMITH 76117,3276
To: ALL

I AM A NEW MEMBER TO THIS FORUM. I'VE BEEN GIVEN A CDROM PROJECT BY MY EMPLOYER
AND I'M SEARCHING FOR INFORMATION.....



#: 65 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  11:31:28
Sb: NEW MEMBER
Fm: Noboru Toyoshima 76662,330
To: ALL

Hello, everybody! I am very glad to know that this new forum has been opened.
My name is Noboru TOYOSHIMA.  I used to work for HighTech Lab. Japan which is
CD ROM, CDI production, in its production department but quit the company with
some collegues to found a new CD ROM software production, Hary & Company,  in
Tokyo Japan.   While we are at HTLJ, we have produced several titles of
multimedia CDROMs such as, "Star Finder," "CD-ROM on CD-ROM," "BMW," "Wonder
Island," etc. On one hand, CDI is targeting "home users," i.e. consumer market,
by categorizing CDI as Audio-Visual equipment.  On the other hand, DVI seems
targeting business field.  Ummmm.... to which way would you go? Anyway,
"Standardaization" is the key word.  There's always an issue over the
standardization around computer technology and never be the only standard....
Well, looking forward to hear many many opionions and disucussions.

-------------NoboruToyoshima



#: 66 S3/CDROM Applications
    18-Mar-88  11:33:22
Sb: #36-Howdy!
Fm: john ferguson 70205,1216
To: George Brickner 70040,104

George, I was interested in the application you're developing for Sears. Is it
reasonable to suppose that the images in the catalog will be raster. not vecotr
images?  I'm an AutoCAD dealer here in Miami and I expect to see a lot of the
manufacturers' catalogs on CDROM in the near future subject to the difficulty
involved in getting the files into electronic form. Naturally, my customers are
interested in graphic data which they can use for their own work and would
prefer vecotrized data.  I realize that the purpose of trhe work you are doing
is to enable parts identification, not to ease drafting and design activities.
I would suggest though that if a decsion hasn't been made and the costs
comparable, to go with vector data, it may even be easier ultimately to edit as
products change. regards.....



#: 67 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  11:37:37
Sb: #41-#Me, a new member
Fm: john ferguson 70205,1216
To: Mark Sterling 74335,1677 (X)

An application I would very much like to see is edited transcripts of
compuserve and BIX forums.  I find it frustrating to suspect that a topic in
which I have a sudden interest may have been covered in detail in a forum which
has scrolled off.  I feel that very frequently, the only info that is current
and correct on hardware/ software problems is in these forums.  I think I would
pay $50/$60 for disks containg the annual contents of the Autodesk or IBM
forums.

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#: 68 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  11:51:17
Sb: #59-mike reid
Fm: john ferguson 70205,1216
To: mike reid 71460,3646

I would like to encourage Dialog to get the electronic yellow pages and Duns
stuff into CDROM form.  You might also want to think carefully about pricing.
I subscribe to dialog and we use the eyp's to build mailing lists.  the price
per record that we actual;y retrieve seems reasonable, but because the data is
frequently more than a year old, I feel that having to get it on-line is
inappropriate since in the end we have to check it all.  I would suggest that
your databases which have a high "nixie" content might be sold for reduced cost
in cd/rom form and we would probably be customers.  It is possible that there
may be a mass market out there for a lot of dialog's stuff that you're not
seeing because of your somewhat difficult access mechannisms and high (seems to
me) cost.  What are your thoughts?



#: 69 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  17:00:39
Sb: WORM Drive Software
Fm: JASON LOVEN 72140,65
To: ALL

Well, I've just joined the forum because i'm currently working with a WORM
(Write Once, Read Many) Drive.  This seemed like a good opportunity to get a
little info on this drive.  I'm trying to interface / write drivers for a
MAXTOR RXT800S WORM drive to an IBM AT compatable, running under DOS 3.2. I
have a SCSI Interface and some software that came with the drive to make it
work like a regular DOS Drive, but I need to write direct access software
because of speed considerations.  Any and all input would be immensely helpful,
as I've never programmed to connect new hardware to a machine before. Even
ideas about good reference materials and where to find them would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
                                Jason



#: 70 S3/CDROM Applications
    18-Mar-88  18:09:06
Sb: #36-Howdy!
Fm: Eric Carter 75206,1625
To: George Brickner 70040,104

Hi, George!  Can you tell me something about Online's interface card that you
mentioned in your description?  I was wondering if you folks are using their
image compression/decompression board for the images and how it and their
software library are.  I am using Reference Technology's board and library.
They are both very good, but you can only use monochrome monitors in your
system or there is a conflict between their image board and any video adapter
other than a monochrome one.  Thanks in advance!  -Eric





#: 71 S5/Data Preparation
    18-Mar-88  18:41:54
Sb: Introduction
Fm: Jeffrey L. Felbeck 73320,3121
To: All

Hello, I'm glad to see the Genesis of a CDROM forum.  This relatively
new technology is exciting and finally provides the small-systems user
with an enormous wealth of data.  I hope that CDROM-based data will,
in the near future, include maps, news-history, trade-journal extracts,
and interactive educational systems.
My personal interests include: Manufacturing Applications, RPG II,
Skiing, Sailplanes, Kayaking, Backpacking, Music and a very great
interest in becoming involved with CDROM development and marketing.
I live in Redmond, WA (very close to Seattle), I am 28 years old, and
I recently (6 months ago) migrated to the Seattle area from Northern
Virginia.
Thank you, I look forward to your comments/greetings.
Jeff Felbeck-----73320,3121



#: 72 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  18:58:51
Sb: Hello
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: All

I noticed this forum today and thought it appropriate to sign on. I have
written several software packages for CD-ROMs and have been selling and
supporting CD-ROM hardware and software since last summer. My company (Compact
Disk Products) has just started including our Compuserve mailbox number
(75530,214) in our advertisements.  If anyone would like to address us at that
number we would be happy to respond.  I of course will be checking into this
forum as often as I can.  It's good to see another source of information open
up regarding optical technology.
                      Bob Helfant
                      Compact Disk Products, Inc.



#: 73 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  19:06:10
Sb: #13-Just a quick hello!
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Dave Stabley 70007,2344

Dave - Did you get my message last week?  I'll call you  next week about the CD
software I sent you.  Maybe you got to see it demonstrated at the Hitachi booth
or the Nimbus booth at the Seattle show? Bob Helfant Compact Disk Products



#: 74 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  19:13:13
Sb: Introduction
Fm: Christopher Werby 71171,3543
To: all

   Pursuant to the initial request to identify myself and describe my interest
in CD-ROM, I am posting this message.  I am an attorney in San Francisco as
well as a computer person/filmmaker and am thus extremely interested in the
ability to access a large amount of data cheaply and efficiently.
   I was recently told by my Mathew Bender service representative that Mathew
Bender is going to make many of its publications available on CD-ROM.  He
wasn't specific which system they plan to support.  I am concerned that since I
subscribe to a large part of this library in hard copy form that the price will
be prohibitive--i.e. that they will charge for CD-ROM's a price equivilent to
what we already have paid for the hard copy library.  In such a situation, we
won't be able to justify purchasing the CD-ROM system.  CD-ROM suppliers should
make their products available at a substantial discount to those patrons who've
already purchased the material in hard copy form.
   CD-ROM is an exciting new technology although with the three major competing
systems, it is a bit difficult to add a drive to my system right now.  I am
interested in finding out what material is available on CD-ROM and whether some
of the more advanced "standards" will be able to access the older material
published on a less advanced standard.



#: 75 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  20:41:26
Sb: new member
Fm: Tom Faulkner 76347,1734
To: all

Count me in as another person interested in CD-ROM. We sell computer hardware
and software and are always looking for new items and new applications.



#: 76 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  22:44:22
Sb: CD-ROM and law
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Christopher Werby 71171,3543

Chris - I am also a lawyer, with the Los Angeles County Public Defender's
Office, and a computer person very excited about CD- ROM.  I also spent 10 yrs.
in San Francisco and envy you for being there.  What firm are you with; I don't
happen to have Parker's Directory (an excellent candidate for CD-ROM) at home!
     I think that many of your questions could be answered by a look at any
recent issue of the magazine CD-ROM REVIEW, put out by IDG Communications of
Peterborough N.H.  They list a West Coast Editor as Stephen L. Mickel (415)
528-2418.  Every issue to date has a "discography" of currently available
CD-ROMs, including titles, prices, databases and publishers.  Legal material
that I've noticed includes several volumes of the C.F.R., the Revised Statutes
of Virginia, Attorney General Opinions (jurisdiction unspecified), and,
enticing to me, "legal libraries by region" (ROM Publishers Inc. in Lincoln, NE
[phone]).  Interesting technical articles amid lots of ballyhoo.
     Legal publication and distribution will soon be entirely electronic, I
believe, and much of the copyright barriers haunting other material will be
nonexistent with public domain judicial opinions, statutes and regulations.  I
am concerned about the slow access times of CD-ROM when applied to legal
research, and I wonder if courts, legislatures and agencies will simply
transfer material by modem to user-owned hard disks, which are getting cheaper
and bigger by the month.  Another alternative is the use of O.C.R. scanners and
index/retreival software on WORM drives.  What did Mathew Bender tell you about
their plans?



#: 77 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    18-Mar-88  23:51:27
Sb: #CDROM-RBBS INTERFACE
Fm: herman hazenberg 70217,2330
To: ALL

HI I'M SETTING UP MY RBBS VERSION 15.1C FOR CDROM DOWNLOADING (PC-SIG DISK) AND
AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE CONFIG.. ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE WELCOME.  THE
NAME OF MY BOARD IS PLANET CLAIRE.. IN SEATTLE, NUMBERS 206 783 8037 OR 784
8591 ANY DROP IN USERS ARE ALLWAYS WELCOME  THANKS

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#: 78 S1/General Information
    18-Mar-88  23:56:32
Sb: #Greetings!
Fm: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537
To: ALL

I've been reading a lot about CD-ROM technology and am quite intrigued by what
I see. But I have little experience in the field and could use some help. I am
a college sophomore who works for a professor at Brown University. We keep a
biographical database of about 100,000 people on a DEC PDP minicomputer. Much
data come from standard reference sources such as Who's Who, Who Was Who,
American Men and Women of Science, to name a few. Currently, data is extracted
by hand--people look at the books, copy down the pertinent information and
later enter it by keyboard into the database. I think that there must be a
better way. And from what I've been reading in PC Magazine and other places,
that way might be CD-ROM. The problem is I don't know much about the technology
(and my boss knows even less). My specific questions are: (1) What kinds of
CD-ROM systems work with the new IBM PS/2 line, specifically, the Model 60 and
80. (2) How do I find out what reference works are on CD-ROM? (3) And finally,
what retrieval methods are used to extract data from CD-ROM stored information
to data files stored on hard disk? I hope my questions don't show too much
ignorance on my part. I'd appreciate any information you might be able to
provide. Good luck to this SIG!

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#: 79 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  00:50:49
Sb: #Version 1.02
Fm: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276
To: bob helfant 75530,214 (X)

Bob:
  I purchased a CD-ROM system from CDP late last year, and I'd like to check on
the status of Version 1.02 of the MS DOS CD-ROM Extension.  I received my unit
with Version 1.01, which apparantly has problems running on turbo XTs above
4.77 MHz.  According to the people I was put in thouch with by Microsoft,
Version 1.02 corrects this problem.  I phoned about an update a couple of
months ago and have yet to hear anything.
  Thanks.

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#: 80 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  01:02:14
Sb: #9-Xiphias
Fm: Joel Nagy 76701,232 76701,232
To: Peter Black 74240,265 (X)

Hello Peter ---
        I was looking forward to a second round of our
"future-ofoptical-disc-technology" discussion from 1986 until my newest son's
arrival scrubbed the Conference for me this year. Next time in LA... or better
yet, please visit Discovery Systems next time you get this far East.
        Good reactions from our folks in the booth to both Xearch and the Time
Table. I've only had a few minutes so far with the Time Table but it looks
fascinating... much more engaging than I'd imagined it would be... and an
absolute natural for both HyperCard & CDROM. When do you hope to have the
full-scale version implemented?
        At one time you were well out front on CD-I. How does that technology
look to you 2 years later? Will the Time Table be available in CD-I when the
players finally start to appear?
        It's good to have you in the forum. See you here (and elsewhere I hope)
soon.
                --- Joel



#: 81 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  01:36:32
Sb: new member
Fm: James M. Albanese 70335,1221
To: all

Hello all, I'm with Davidson and Associates, Inc. I am interested in CD-ROM
opportunities in education and entertainment.



#: 82 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  01:50:34
Sb: #13-Just a quick hello!
Fm: Joel Nagy 76701,232 76701,232
To: Dave Stabley 70007,2344

Hello Dave ---
        Glad you decided to drop in... I've heard of Ingram, of course, but
somehow missed the fact that they were handling CDROM already. That's terrific!
It sends an unmistakable signal to those (including dealers) still on the
sidelines that serious players are taking CDROM very seriously. Your
perspective on the industry will certainly be a welcome addition. Here's hoping
you make it to the forum often. ---- Joel Nagy



#: 83 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    19-Mar-88  08:19:49
Sb: #Apple CD reader
Fm: Bill McCarthy 76274,462
To: all

Would someone be kind enough to tell me with which version(s) of the Macintosh
Apple's new CD reader will work?

1 Reply


#: 84 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  09:13:23
Sb: #78-#Greetings!
Fm: John McCormick 76360,44
To: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537 (X)

AMDEK is abou to announce a microchannel adapter for their Laserdrive1 CD-ROM
review is a good source of current listings of both new and older CD-ROM
applications (disks). I am not certain what you mean by retreival information?
There are several main types of search programs and a bunch of custom programs
but to the average user the CD-ROM acts just like a write protected hard disk
just a bit (quite a bit actually) slower without the 32 |MB DOS size limit.

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#: 85 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  09:30:35
Sb: Yet another new member
Fm: peter dyke 73537,3237
To: all

Hi everybody!
               I've been using and marketing CD-ROM drives and specifically
Hazardous Material Information Applications for nearly a year now, and am still
in awe of this superb medium.
       I look forward to this forum helping dispel the chicken - egg syndrome,
as we all can by simply USING the darn things, as well as talking about them!
                       -pd





#: 86 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  10:54:46
Sb: Introduction
Fm: Dennis Tanner 70007,2011
To: all

Hello.  I am Dennis Tanner and I work for Radio Shack in Ft. Worth, Texas.
Radio Shack now sells the Hitachi 1503S drive.  (We announced it at the
Microsoft CD-ROM Conference.) We are interested in CD-ROM applications,
especially those with appeal to broad audiences (as opposed to vertical
products). I try to stay abreast of new hardware and software related to CD-ROM
products. My phone number is 817-390-3477. My address is 1300 One Tandy Center,
Ft. Worth, TX  76102.



#: 87 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    19-Mar-88  11:05:44
Sb: #83-Apple CD reader
Fm: Joel Nagy 76701,232
To: Bill McCarthy 76274,462 (X)

Hello Bill ---
        The AppleCD SC is a SCSI device, so any Mac that comes with a SCSI port
(Mac Plus, SE & Mac II) is equipped to handle it. In fact, a 512e with an
after-market SCSI upgrade should qualify as well, though I haven't actually
seen that configuration working.
        There is a specific driver file for the CDROM drive, which your system
needs before it will "see" the device on the SCSI port... or daisy-chained
through another SCSI device, like a disc drive...
        For a bit more information, you may wish to read Apple's press release
announcing the drive. It's available in Data Library 1 under the name APCDSC.PR
(I think).
        Thanks for joining the CDROM Forum!          ---- Joel Nagy



#: 88 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    19-Mar-88  11:13:30
Sb: New Member
Fm: Joshua Beall 71410,1411
To: ALL

I am the Information Center Technical Coordinator for a Fortune 50 mfg.
company.  I have joined this forum because, coincidentally, I began last week
to research the use of CD ROMS in our environment.  Although I a{ interested in
the general technology, I am most interested if anyone is yet addressing their
use in a LAN and WAN enviroment.  We currently have 450 nodes on an IBM Token
Ring LAN in our headquarters, with 5 other locations set up and many more to
go.  My idea is to provide the CD-ROM as a shared resource.  Has this been
offered by anyone, or would I have to write the code?  Is the industry decided
on the copyright and fee issues that this raises?  Any discussion of this would
be interesting to me, and hopefully others here.   -JJ^2



#: 89 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  11:24:25
Sb: #58-New User
Fm: Dennis Tanner 70007,2011
To: Jim Bellaire 73177,1452

James, Radio Shack does offer a CD-ROM drive that works with the Tandy 1000
line, the Hitachi 1503S (catalog number 90-2156, $995.00).  As yet we have no
drive for the Color Computer. --Dennis Tanner /ex



#: 90 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  11:28:35
Sb: #Greetings
Fm: Dennis Tanner 70007,2011
To: bob helfant 75530,214 (X)

Hello, Bob. Glad to see you on the forum. Dennis Tanner

1 Reply


#: 91 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  14:16:47
Sb: New Member
Fm: Juan C. Rodriguez 73717,2235
To: ALL

Hello there. I am an independent programmer in the NYC area and I just dropped
by to I am very interested in writing applications using CD-ROM technology and
this forum seems like a great place to start looking for the right information.
Does anyone know how and where to get information on the High Sierra Group
standard? I also heard there is a new ISO standard.



#: 92 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  15:46:00
Sb: #43-#New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Mark Schneider 71330,467 (X)

The quick answer is, unfortunately, "no." We use Palantir OCR devices, which
can accept 300 dot-per-inch images from a variety of digitizers (Fujitsu makes
a good one). The price, however, is still higher than you are looking for.

As I'm sure you know, there are several OCR machines that do a good job on
typewritten (not typeset) material -- Dest makes some, for example.

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#: 93 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  15:52:52
Sb: Interactive Video
Fm: Bruce C. Klopfenstein 75220,1005
To: all

I am currently finishing a report on interactive video for Bowling Green State
University where I am an assistant professor in radio-TV-film.  Anyone who can
help me with this project is invited to do so.  I am interested in the costs
and especially the educational aspects of interactive video. Feel free to drop
me a line.  I'm 75220,1005.



#: 94 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  15:53:33
Sb: #47-New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Ron Fortunato 76703,4306 (X)

Physically, it is a PC with an built-in optical drive. If you select the image
option, there is an additional high-resolution monitor that goes beside the
regular PC monitor.

The search software is a commercially available package called BRS Search,
which comes in both MS DOS and Xenix flavors. It both generates the searchable
database from input text and conducts the searches, which are formulated as
boolean combinations of words and phrases ((STOCK MARKET near5 CRASH) not
(JAPAN or SINGAPORE)).

If you want more information, let me know via e-mail and I'll have some
literature sent.



#: 95 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  15:58:43
Sb: #78-#Greetings!
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537 (X)

Since you are building your own databases continuously, you might want to
consider write-once disks in order to avoid having to send material out to have
CD ROMs produced.

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#: 96 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  16:07:31
Sb: new member cd-rom forum
Fm: Michael S. Perdreau 73100,2000
To: all

Librarian by trade, and CD-Rom user by choice. Hitachi 1502s with XT286, with a
few applications: ERIC (OCLC), PC-Sig, and many others Will use the April 27th
Teleconference on CD apllication in Community Colleges sponsored by ACRL and
other groups. That's all folks



#: 97 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  17:01:43
Sb: #New Member
Fm: Brian Grimm 73327,1232
To: All

Just a quick hello.  I work in the MIS/IC section of a government agency.  I am
interested in including a CO-ROM in a network using XT and AT clones, and Xenix
and Unix minis.  The first network is a Novell RX-NET running ANet 2.0.  The
next will be an Ethernet system (software undetermined at this point).  Any
suggestions? Brian Grimm

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#: 98 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  17:04:58
Sb: new member and questions
Fm: John Thompson 71351,220
To: all

I'm a independent user who's always looking at new technology. I have a Atari
520ST and several periphals. Earlier this month, Atari corp announced a CDROM
drive that will be able to read 3 different formats (is that the right word for
CD?) supposedly avaible in may for 599.00 (both I find very hard to believe as
a result of other announced products that were late and overpriced)

as for questions, considering the size of storage avaible with CDROM, 540megs I
believe are there any better uses for it than encyclopedias and business
oriented stuff that uses that kind of space?  it seems to me a WORM drive would
be more pratical. I hope theres a use for the common user out there. sorry
about the ragged looking message, I'm just not used to CIS' message entry
anymore.



#: 99 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:29:58
Sb: #59-mike reid
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: mike reid 71460,3646

ONE OF MY LIBRARY STAFF MEMBERS DEVELOPED A PROGRAM TO KEEP TRACK OF THE USE OF
OUR CD-ROMS--I.E. HOW MANY SEARCHES AND WHO THE USERS ARE. THE PROGRAM WILL
ALSO COLLECT QUESTIONNARE RESPONSES.   WOULD DIALOG BE INTERESTED IN ANYTHING
LIKE THAT?



#: 100 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:35:02
Sb: #92-#New Member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

What's the role of the digitizer when used with the CDC?  Does it digitize the
text?  I thought the CDC, like all OCRs, digitized the text image.  Or does the
Fujitsu operate like a flatbed, so that you're not limited to the single sheet
limitation of the CDC feed mechanism?  By the way, what's the best price for
the Palantir? And for the Fujitsu?           Thanks for everything, Mark

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#: 101 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:43:09
Sb: #97-#New Member
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: Brian Grimm 73327,1232 (X)

I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN NETWORKING CD-ROMS, PARTICULARLY WITH ETHERNET.  ANY
IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THIS WOULD BE EXTREMELY USEFUL.  WE HAVE REFERENCE DATABASES
SUCH AS MEDLINE AND PSYCLIT USING VENDOR SEARCH SOFTWARE.

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#: 102 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:48:43
Sb: #NEW MEMBER
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: ALL

HELLO.  I AM A LIBRARIAN IN A MEDICAL SCHOOL IN PHILADELPHIA.  WE HAVE BEEN
USING CD DATABASES FOR OVER A YEAR.  WE NOW HAVE MEDLINE, PSYCLIT, MICROMEDEX,
BOOKS IN PRINT PLUS, MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF, AND ARE A TEST SITE FOR SCIENCE
CITATION INDEX.  THE SYSTEMS ARE VERY POPULAR WITH THE STUDENTS AND FACULTY.  I
AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON HOW TO NETWORK THEM OR MAKE THE STATIONS
AVAILABLE FOR DIAL-IN ACCESS.  ANY IDEAS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

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#: 103 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:53:23
Sb: #57-#New member
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: Vic Walker 72760,217 (X)

INDEX MEDICUS (THE MEDLINE DATABASE) IS AVAILABLE ON CD-ROM FROM AT LEAST FIVE
VENDORS.  THE TIME SPAN, SEARCH LANGUAGES, COST, ETC. VARY.  ONE SYSTEM IS FOR
THE MAC, THE REST WORK WITH IBMS AND COMPATIBLES.  ANOTHER CD WITH PHARMACY
INFORMATION IS THE MICROMEDEX CCIS WHICH INCLUDES DRUGDEX, POISONING INFO, PILL
IDENTIFICATION. THIS SYSTEM CONTAINS HIGH QUALITY DATA AND IS USED IN MANY
PHARMACIES AND EMERGENCY ROOMS. LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC ORDERING
INFORMATION.

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#: 104 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  18:55:21
Sb: #new member
Fm: Tom Thackrey 71401,3627
To: all

Hi. I'm a new member from sunny CA.  I develop CD-ROM applications under
MS-DOS/Windows.  I am interested in CD-ROM as a data, text, graphics, video and
audio medium.  I am currently doing data prep and programming for a full-text
retrieval application.

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#: 105 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  19:04:04
Sb: #104-#new member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Tom Thackrey 71401,3627 (X)

Tom - what application are you working on (if it's not top secret!)? Also, what
kind of scanners are you using, especially for OCR?

1 Reply


#: 106 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  19:26:38
Sb: #105-#new member
Fm: Tom Thackrey 71401,3627
To: Mark Schneider 71330,467 (X)

My app was announced at the MSoft convention so I guess it's not a secret any
more.  I'm working on the Facts on File News Digest. It's a full text retrieval
app.  Most of the data is already on mag tape, the rest is being converted by a
3rd party, I don't know if they are typing or scanning.  Some of both I
suspect. What's your game???

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#: 107 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  19:46:12
Sb: #106-new member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Tom Thackrey 71401,3627

I'm a lawyer and computer hobbyist interested in putting legal databases on
CD-ROM.  Thanks, and good luck to you -  Mark



#: 108 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  20:10:49
Sb: #79-#Version 1.02
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276 (X)

Are you saying that you were promised an update from Compact Disk Products
months ago?  If you haven't been able to use the drive and software for months,
you should have called us back.  Please call call anytime for an update of the
extensions. Bob Helfant

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#: 109 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  20:14:01
Sb: #90-Greetings
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Dennis Tanner 70007,2011

Hello Dennis.  I think this forum will help to spread the word. I suspect
though that most of the users of this forum are among the most educated
computer users.  I'm sure that by making these products available at Radio
Shack, you will showing this technology off to a much larger audience. Bob
Helfant



#: 110 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  20:16:58
Sb: A New Data Library?
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Sysop (X)

I think a lot of the potential of CD-ROM and inexpensive mass storage in
general is the use of data not currently available on ANY computer.
Accordingly, I would like to learn more about the CONVERSION of "real world"
(analog) data to magnetic form, not just the preparation of magnetic data for
optical media.  Do you think a Data Conversion section of the CD-ROM Forum, as
opposed to Data Preparation, would be appropriate? I envision discussions and
files dealing with data capture, scanners, pattern recognition, midi systems,
video conversion, etc.  I think that developers should really focus on entirely
new applications, not merely duplicating mainframe databases, and to do that
there must be knowledge of converting data which is not yet even in magnetic
form. Just a hunch!        Thanks for the wonderful forum, Mark



#: 111 S3/CDROM Applications
    19-Mar-88  20:23:47
Sb: #CD ROM
Fm: Bob Brevard 73270,3633
To: All

Hello, I'm a graphics designer who is very interested in CD Rom. I design a lot
of Presentations --Video, Computer, and live. I want to find out what hardware
and software I need to put VideoWorks color movies on CDRom. I use a MacII
currently --but would like not want to limit ideas on ways of using other
systems/software/hardware. ---Let the threads begin...
    Regards, Bob Brevard

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#: 112 S3/CDROM Applications
    19-Mar-88  21:10:23
Sb: #23-Greetings, hackers!
Fm: Alexander Inglis 70307,20
To: Carlo Stonebanks 71411,15

Greetings, Carlos, from Toronto.
       I'm definitely no expert ... but I suspect the safest route for the FBDB
to take, since it is currently using IBM PC based machines, is a Microsoft DOS
compatible drive. There appears to be a lot of scepticism surrounding the new
80386-based machines under OS/2 ... but when it does become a reality, it will
at least support DOS 3.x which, I understand, supports CD ROM drives.
       Should Macintosh or some other competing system develop a strong lead, I
would think UNIX might be a common factor ... and since the 80386 machines talk
both DOS and UNIX ... again the safe solution.



#: 113 S3/CDROM Applications
    19-Mar-88  21:10:35
Sb: #34-#CD ROM proposals
Fm: Alexander Inglis 70307,20
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

The New Grove Encyclopedia of Music is the most prestigious music encyclopedia
published in english. The first edition appeared over a 19 year period,
beginning in 1878. The famous Fifth Edition came out in 9 volumes in 1954 with
a supplement in 1961. It wasn't until 1980 that the latest edition appeared ...
in some 20 volumes.
       Unfortunately, NGEM is always out of date by the time it is published.
Most of the current 6th edition was written more than a decade ago and yet
retails for over $2000 US! It is an ideal candidate for CD ROM at, say $250;
the cost of publishing on paper alone must account for a large portion of the
current price.
       Furthermore, an electronic NGEM could be updated easily and frequently.
There are also some who treasure much in the previous editions, in spite of
outdated scholarship; some of the writing is a joy to read on its own. There
would be no reason NOT to include all or at least selected portions of the
treasured previous editions on a CD ROM.
       Because NGEM is so heavily text-based, a Hyperware edition would really
be a whole different kind of resource. Anyone who could influence the current
publishers of NGEM (Brittanica, I believe) would be doing a lot of music lovers
a huge favour ....

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#: 114 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  21:10:45
Sb: #39-#New Member
Fm: Alexander Inglis 70307,20
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Your message garbled the capacity of the 5-1/4" drive ... could you repeat it?
I work in an advertising typography studio in Toronto. We are running several
terminals on a Multiset III with an 80 meg hard drive. The system is up 24
hours a day, five days a week. We've been toying with WORM ... since the disks
themselves are so cheap, it seems to make sense to use as storage. It's a nice
feature that all versions of a file are there permanently because sometimes
when we do changes, a customer decides the earlier version was better ... and
we have redo everything! Something like a 250 meg drive would keep us going for
a couple of months or more. Are the disks themselves inexpensive, ie, under $50
each?

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#: 115 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  21:10:55
Sb: #78-#Greetings!
Fm: Alexander Inglis 70307,20
To: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537 (X)

Sounds like the first place to start looking is hand-held scanners which can
import typeset text into a PC. That would eliminate a good deal of your current
trouble while you wait for an enterprising soul to get around to publishing the
databases you require. It's also the best way to keep your data current.
Kurzweil, now a Xerox division, is the leader (I believe) in scanning
technology and offers equipment in a range of prices.
       BTW, scanners are a hot new item which, like the fax machine, will
quickly overwhelm everyone with their usefulness and market penetration. Among
others, the makers of hard drives must be delighted ....

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#: 116 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  21:11:07
Sb: Questions, questions
Fm: Alexander Inglis 70307,20
To: All

Could someone provide a few background details, either in a message or in a DL
file regarding some basics:
       1) Who are the leading WORM drive suppliers, what are the capacities,
what additional hardware beyond a PC compatible is needed and what are some
ballpark costs?
       2) What are the leading software search packages available for the IBM
world and what are some ballpark prices?
       3) I read about a Borland "search engine" some time ago that was
supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all to the CD ROM environment. Borland has
released a number of excellent products ... what happened to this one?
       4) Some CD audio players have outlets marked "Digital Out". On my
player, a Philips/Magnavox CDB 650, it is a standard RCA socket. Can this
somehow talk directly to a serial/parallel interface on a PC?



#: 117 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  21:52:22
Sb: new member
Fm: Michael Feldman 70300,206
To: All

I'm Mike Feldman.  I work for JHM Corporation, an educational software
development group.  (We did IBM's Writing to Read.)  We are looking at using
CD-ROMS for several products.



#: 118 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  21:54:07
Sb: Audio channels in ISO
Fm: Michael Feldman 70300,206
To: Anyone

Does anyone know the details of the audio component in the High Sierra/ISO
standard?  I heard about it in Seattle but never was able to track it down.  In
general, how much audio, what quality etc.?  Thanks, Mike



#: 119 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  22:15:55
Sb: #56-CD ROM
Fm: JOHN CRAFT 71465,520
To: Mike McGroarty 73210,2353 (X)

I USE DOS 3.2, BUT I THINK THAT YOUR PROBLEM IS MOST LIKELY AN INTERRUPT
PROBLEM, YOU SHOULD TRY TO SET THE CARD TO A DIFFERENT IRQ LINE, AND ALSO
CHANGE THE SOFTWARE, I THINK THAT THE MANUAL GOES INTO THAT, (MAYBE ON THE DISK
README FILE). IF YOU HAVE ALREADY TRIED THE IRQ CHANGE, LET ME KNOW AND ILL
CALL TANDY CENTER AND FIND OUT THE SCOOP... JOHN CRAFT 71465,520 [phone]



#: 120 S1/General Information
    19-Mar-88  23:39:16
Sb: Strating out with CD-ROM
Fm: David Robson 76466,701
To: ALL

Hullo I'm new to Cd-ROM but hope this forum will solve that. hope to hear from
fellow computer types about CD-ROM. Thank's for the Forum.
        Dave Robson



#: 121 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  00:53:34
Sb: #97-New Member
Fm: steve michel 70611,1215
To: Brian Grimm 73327,1232 (X)

Contact Meridian Data -- [phone].  They announced a network server for
CD-ROM drives at the Microsoft Conference in March.  I don't have the details
in front of me, but I do remember that it was supposed to work with Novel.



#: 122 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  00:53:49
Sb: #New Member
Fm: steve michel 70611,1215
To: All

Hi, Steve Michel, West Coast correspondent for CD-ROM Review.  After just a
little over year and a half following CD-ROM, I feel like an old timer.  But
it's nice to have everybody else getting in on the act at last.

Mostly, I'm a Macintosh/HyperCard junkie (now writing Yet Another Book on
HyperCard), but have used PCs a lot too.  My first book, IBM PC and Macintosh
Networking came out in January from Sams.  The HyperCard connection to CD-ROM
is ideal; it provides the sort of easy integration of visuals, text, sound,
etc., that we want and have been talking about in connection with CD-ROM.

This looks to be a fun forum, and I'll be checking in often.

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#: 123 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  01:45:53
Sb: #103-#New member
Fm: Vic Walker 72760,217
To: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620 (X)

Thanks Carol.  What I want to know is who is developing for these databases.
This is something I would like to get involved in, and I would be interested in
working with such a company, or getting ideas from them. Do you know who is
working with these?
                                               Vic

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#: 124 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  02:07:20
Sb: #new member
Fm: Michael Barrow 73320,1322
To: all

Hello All,

I just signed on and dumped all of the forum's first messages. Everything looks
very interesting.

I'm an engineer in the Boston area working on a new application that hopes to
use CD-ROM.

-- mdb

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#: 125 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  02:22:54
Sb: #102-#NEW MEMBER
Fm: Vic Walker 72760,217
To: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620 (X)

Carol, I read this message after I read your reply to mine (and after I sent my
reply back).  You seem to be in the perfect position to answer my questions.
Working in a small hospital like mine, I have very limited access to any good
information.  Even with access to Index Medicus (which I do not have), or use
of an online database search, which I also do not have, I only get a literature
citation, or perhaps a one paragraph abstract.  Getting the actual journal
article is a major chore, so the question usually goes unanswered.  Now, I'm
sure there could be a better way.  I have seen the Iowa System, which contains
a year's worth of journal articles on pharmacy-related topics.  A one year
subscription costs several hundred dollars, and fits in a shoe box (it is
microfiche).  This is a FULLTEXT product - I can read the entire article.  A
library/pharmacy/pharmacy school can keep up to date on all information for a
few hundred dollars a year.  What if such a fulltext product were on CD-ROM,
and could do the searching for you??  Even a small hospital's library could
afford the investment for such a product, along with the MEDLINE CD-ROM, Index
Medicus, or whatever.

You are a professional in the medical library business.  Does this sound like
it makes sense, or am I off base?  How would something like this get started?

Thanks for your help.
                                     Vic

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#: 126 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  03:54:04
Sb: #122-#New Member
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: steve michel 70611,1215 (X)

Hi Steve!

Good to see you here.  Even though we may be just a few miles apart, I find
that it is often easier to reach people electronically, thanks to the
store-and-forward capability of this technology.

Are your notes from the CD ROM conference still in the bags, just like mine?
<sigh>.  I'm feeling the same kind of information overload like after MacWorld
Expo last August.  And I'm staying up late nights, working on the BMUG PD
ROM(tm) Sampler stack... I'll give you a peek soon.

What would you say were the most significant, industry-wise, announcements at
the MicroSoft CD ROM conference?  I don't have your perspective on this
industry.

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG

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#: 127 S3/CDROM Applications
    20-Mar-88  03:58:01
Sb: #111-CD ROM
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: Bob Brevard 73270,3633

Bob -

To produce color VideoWorks II movies for CD ROM, you need basically the same
tools you use to produce them currently... a good monitor, and a Mac II, with
oodles of memory.  A really fat Hard Disk will probably be helpful for
accumulating material, like a CDC Wren 300 meg drive or the like, and something
like a Meridien CD Simulator (don't buy one, but rent time or use one at your
publishing house) can help evaluate performance (there is definitely a
different "feel" using a CD than using a hard disk).

If you can, take a look at the Discovery Systems Macintosh CD ROM sampler. It
has got lots of videoworks, both color & B&W, samples.

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 128 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    20-Mar-88  04:00:51
Sb: #77-CDROM-RBBS INTERFACE
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: herman hazenberg 70217,2330

Herman -

Sorry I can't help you on your particular question about the PC-SIG PD CD ROM,
but I am curious about your evaluation of it... since we're looking at putting
out a product in the same genre, except on the Macintosh.  One of our options
is to press it in ISO/High Sierra format rather than the Mac's proprietary
"HFS" format, which would allow PC-based BBS's to read it directly.  Would you
have any interest in a disc like this?  What BBS software do you use, and how
much of a pain is it to get it to work with the PC SIG CD ROM online?  Do the
PC SIG folks impose any restrictions on how long you can put it online, etc.?

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 129 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:04:44
Sb: #50-New Member
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: Tom Hartman 76527,555

Tom -

Welcome to the CDROM forum!  I'm always glad to see fellow Mac users here,
although I imagine we'll be (relatively) scarce for a while, until Apple's
drive is shipping in quantity.  I'd recommend visiting the software library
DL1, and doing a BROwse to look for the press releases about Apple's drive and
the existing (and potential) applications.  Yes, as the name implies, CD ROM is
a Read Only Media, but that may not be as limiting as it sounds, given
sophisticated software.  CD ROM won't take the place of hard disks, but it will
certainly "lighten the load" by allowing for storage of archival or external
data in a separate device.

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 130 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    20-Mar-88  04:09:06
Sb: #26-new member
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: Schneider 71261,1746

Arnold -

Welcome to the CDROM forum!  I'd recommend going to the OPtions menu and using
the CN function to Change your Name in the forum to your full name... that
seems to be what most people here are doing so far.

I, too look forward to the increase in the "digitizing" of the world that CD
ROM will help bring.  In addition, the large amount of "real estate" (free
space) present on CD ROM, compared to current storage and distribution media,
offers publishers the opportunity to include data in multiple forms, such as
speech-digitized in addition to text-only, on one disc.

-- Raines Cohen / Team BMUG



#: 131 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:16:36
Sb: #67-#Me, a new member
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: john ferguson 70205,1216 (X)

John -

Yes, I, too would like very much to be able to browse several years' worth of
some of my favorite forums (mostly Mac-ish, in my case) on a CD ROM.
Unfortunately, I expect that it will be some time until we see the commercial
forums regularly publishing in this media, for a number of reasons, mostly
copyright-related.  It mostly settles down to a question of who owns the
content of the forums, and whether the systems need to get permission from each
message-poster for publication.  In addition, they might perceive such an
archive as a disincentive to log on and spend your $ online, so] they might
hold back from offering this sort of compilation.

I suspect that we will see much sooner CD ROM-based compilations of the PUBLIC
messages posted on public forums such as UseNet.  Messages are posted here with
the expectation that they will be automatically reproduced thousands of times
across the world, as part of the message distribution network (the same applies
to FidoNet).  A publisher willing to bring a disc of these messages to market
at a low price, with good searching and indexing tools, would probably be able
to do so without objection from users of the networks.

If you had such a collection, what would you use it for?  What kind of searches
would you want to do?  Would you like it to be edited/filtered down so that the
"trivial" messages, as well as incorrect ones, were removed or invisible?

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG

2 Replies


#: 132 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:18:17
Sb: hello
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: all

Just a hello from a new member. I've never seen even an ADVERTISEMENT for a
CDROM -- only the announcement in CD/Hi-Fi magazines that they do exist
(Grolier's encyclopaedia, I think). I can't wait til they become available (and
affordable!); I ESPECIALLY look forward to MULTI-DISC systems, allowing a
library of discs to be called at any time.



#: 133 S3/CDROM Applications
    20-Mar-88  04:22:00
Sb: #113-CD ROM proposals
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: Alexander Inglis 70307,20 (X)

Alexander -

Don't make the assumption that a publication on CD ROM is going to retail for
less than the same product on paper.  Even though per-copy production costs may
be lower, pre-production, data conversion, and mastering costs can be
significant, and a publisher uncertain about a new medium may try to recoup
these costs out of the first few years' worth of publication.  In addition, a
smaller # of copies can go out, since fewer people can read CD ROM's than can
read books, and book publication must continue (for at least the forseeable
future).

The overriding factor may be the ownership of the information.  If a company
has a monopoly on a certain set of data, why should they lower the price at the
same time that they add value (better searching, faster access, perhaps
multimedia) to it?  For example, I believe that the Oxford English Dictionary
is available on CD ROM for the same price as on paper... about $1200.  Why
should they lower the price?

It will be interesting to see what the availability of less-expensive
publishing media does to the cost of information in general...

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 134 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:22:46
Sb: #12-Hypercard and CD-ROM
Fm: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271
To: Peter Black 74240,265

Peter -

Hi!  I missed getting that demo from you at the conference.  Tell me more about
Xyphias and Xearch!

-- Raines Cohen / BMUG



#: 135 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:23:32
Sb: #14-#New Member
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Please educate me: what does WORM stand for?

1 Reply


#: 136 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:23:59
Sb: #108-#Version 1.02
Fm: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276
To: bob helfant 75530,214 (X)

Bob:
  I did not mean to give you the impression that I have not been using the
CD-ROM system.  It's been working fine with the exception that I can't use High
Sierra Format CDs in the turbo mode (because Version 1.01 of the MS-DOS
extension does not operate properly in the turbo mode).  HSF CDs run fine at
4.77MHz.
  I'll give CDP a call later this week and check on the status of Version 1.02.
  Thanks.

1 Reply


#: 137 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:30:17
Sb: #27-intro
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: Paul Pignatelli 76367,2721

(curious)--What area of linguistics do you work in?



#: 138 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:39:17
Sb: #30-Me, a new member
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

(perhaps a naive question...) is it possible that there may eventually be
available a CDROM disc-drive that will work with any(!) computer, like a modem
does, instead of every computer manufacturer producing brand-specific drives?



#: 139 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:43:16
Sb: #37-CD ROM
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: JOHN CRAFT 71465,520 (X)

Is the Hitachi drive compatible with the Radio Shack M-100 laptop?



#: 140 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  04:53:28
Sb: #54-#New Member
Fm: Ron Johnson 70116,1416
To: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276 (X)

What price-range are we talking about for these Hitachi drives? (I assume they
are 5")

1 Reply


#: 141 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  07:17:45
Sb: #123-New member
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: Vic Walker 72760,217 (X)

IF YOU WILL SEND ME A MAIL MESSAGE WITH YOUR ADDRESS I CAN SEND YOU SPECIFIC
INFORMATION AND THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF THE COMPANIES.  AS FAR AS MEDLINE ON
THE PC WE HAVE CHOSEN THE SILVER PLATTER VERSION, BUT THERE IS ONE CALLED
MEDBASE THAT LOOKS VERY ATTRACTIVE TOO.



#: 142 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  07:25:29
Sb: #125-#NEW MEMBER
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: Vic Walker 72760,217 (X)

MICROMEDEX IS A FULL-TEXT PRODUCT SOMETHING LIKE A HANDBOOK.  IT GOES BEYOND
FACTS AND COMPARISONS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT IT CITES RELEVANT LITERATURE TO
BACK-UP DATA.  THERE ARE NO JOURNAL ARTICLES BUT IN MANY CASES YOU WILL FIND
YOU DON'T NEED THEM.  THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER IS [phone].  I AM FAMILIAR
WITH THE IOWA SYSTEM-I ONCE WAS DIRECTOR OF THE PHILADELPHIA COLLEGE OF
PHARMACY AND SCIENCE LIBRARY.  FULL-TEXT OF JOURNAL ARTICLES IS NOT AVAILABLE
YET ON CD-ROM.  THE COMPANY THAT IS WORKING ON THIS IS UNIVERSITY MICROFILMS
INTERNATIONAL IN ANN ARBOR.  THEY ARE NOT TO THE PRODUCTION STAGE YET.  AS YOU
POINT OUT THIS WOULD BE A BOON FOR SMALL ORGANIZATIONS; ANOTHER VERY LARGE
POTENTIAL MARKET IS THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.

1 Reply


#: 143 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  07:31:07
Sb: #84-Greetings!
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: John McCormick 76360,44

I AM A LIBRARIAN WHO HAS KEPT UP FAIRLY CLOSELY WITH THE REFERENCE DATABASES
AVAILABLE ON CD-ROM AND I AM FAIRLY SURE THE KIND OF BIOGRAPHIC INFORMATION YOU
NEED IS NOT AVAIALBLE ON THIS MEDIUM YET.  HOWEVER, THERE ARE NUMEROUS
BIOGRAPHICAL DIRECTORIES AVAILABLE ONLINE THROUGH DIALOG OR BRS--THE UNIVERSITY
LIBRARY CAN SHOW YOU LISTINGS.  YOU COULD DOWNLOAD THE INFO FROM THE ONLINE
DIRECTORY AND TRANSFER IT TO YOUR DATABASE WITHOUT RE-KEYING.  HOWEVER, YOU
NEED TO CHECK COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE DATABASE USE TOO.



#: 144 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  09:43:02
Sb: Personal Introduction
Fm: Anthony Turner 71541,566
To: ALL

Hello.  Please allow me to introduce myself.  My name is Anthony Turner.  I am
looking forward to a good working relationship with cdrom.  My personal
interest are building and flying remotely piloted aircraft, photography, and
ofcourse, computers.



#: 145 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:06:26
Sb: #136-Version 1.02
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276 (X)

Jonathan, I'm surprised to hear about this problem.  I have been using the 1.0
extensions on my 12 Mz AT clone and my 16 Mz 386 without any problems.  Try
removing whatever mouse driver you have from either the autoexec or the config
file (wherever it lives).  I have never got reliable results with the Microsoft
software with my mouse installed. Bob



#: 147 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:11:13
Sb: worms
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: ron johnson

Write Once Read Many times.  This is a stable storage media.  Once you write a
file, you need a hammer to erase it. Bob Helfant



#: 148 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:40:15
Sb: #100-#New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Mark Schneider 71330,467 (X)

Fujitsu does have both sheetfeeder and flatbed capabilities. I'll get our
marketing people to give me the rest of the information you request and send it
to you via email next week.



1 Reply


#: 149 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:42:16
Sb: #114-New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Alexander Inglis 70307,20 (X)

115 MByte/side. A new, double density version is just now out, but I don't have
any experience with it. I think the disks cost about $90 apiece, but I'll check
that tomorrow.



#: 150 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:42:45
Sb: #135-#New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Ron Johnson 70116,1416

Write Once, Read Many

1 Reply


#: 151 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  10:55:45
Sb: New Membership
Fm: William E. Storts 76012,3366
To: ALL

I am a new member interested in business applications for CD-ROM.



#: 152 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  11:48:47
Sb: #131-Me, a new member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271 (X)

You have just identified one of the advantages of write-once (and, in the
future, write-many) optical technologies: they make possible samizdat editions
of special-interest databases that a publisher would find it uneconomical to
produce. With a write-once drive attached to a PC with a biggish magnetic disk,
production of 100-MB rapidly searchable full-text databases is no particular
problem.



#: 153 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  11:53:41
Sb: #148-New Member
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Thanks, I look forward to it.  And I'm curious as to the respective functions
of the CDC & the Fujitsu.  Why not simply use one or the other?



#: 154 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  12:50:55
Sb: #124-new member
Fm: STEVE TOURIGNY 76054,542
To: Michael Barrow 73320,1322

HELLO MIKE, SAW YOUR MESSAGE AND WAS INTERESTED IN YOUR APPLICATION/COMPANY. ]I
AM ALSO IN THE BOSTON AREA [WORK IN CAMBRIDGE] AND AM CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING
OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CDROM & CD-I AREAS.  MY BACKGROUND IS IN ENGINEERING.
CURRENTLY IN NEW PRODUCT INTRO AND OPERATIONS MGT FOR A SMALL "HI-TECH" FIRM.
DROP ME A LINE VIA E-MAIL AND WE CAN DISCUSS. ALSO... HAVING ATTENDED LAST
YEARS MICROSOFT CONF. AND HAVING FOLLOWED CDROM FOR NEARLY 2 YEARS I HAVE HIGH
HOPES FOR THIS FORUM AND THE INDUSTRY. ANYONE SHOULD FEEL FREE TO SEND ME A
NOTE REGARDING ASSISTANCE IN GETTING NEW PRODUCTS "PULLED TOGETHER AND OFF THE
GROUND". IT'S TIME WE START JUMPING IN WITH BOTH FEET!! GOOD LUCK STEVE
TOURIGNY 76054,542



#: 155 S3/CDROM Applications
    20-Mar-88  12:59:44
Sb: #34-CD ROM proposals
Fm: Edward Schneider 76137,572
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

The Grove Dictionary is a 20-volume reference work considered to be the most
up-to-date English-language source for music history, biography and practice.
The market is a trifle narrow, but no narrower than that for the Oxford English
Dictionary.  Any serious music scholar, critic or student needs access to
Grove. The audio selections you mentioned would certainly enhance the work,
which now uses printed musical examples, accessible only to those who can
easily read music.  For your information, it is published by -- I forgot!  It
used to be Macmillan, but I wonder whether it hasn't seen a change in
distributors in the USA. -- Ed S.



#: 156 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  13:31:02
Sb: #115-Greetings!
Fm: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537
To: Alexander Inglis 70307,20 (X)

Thanks for the suggestion concerning scanners. The office has purchased some
sort of scanner, but I've yet to see it. It seems that the company forgot to
mention that the boards for the PS/2 hadn't been finished yet. I, too, believe
this might be an answer to some of our current needs.



#: 157 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  13:34:09
Sb: #95-Greetings!
Fm: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Can you tell me more about write-once disks? I take it that they would require
a different kind of drive. I don't think we'll want to put any of the database
on CD-ROM, but possible, in conjunction with a scanner, writeonce disks might
be useful.



#: 158 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  13:37:17
Sb: #84-Greetings!
Fm: Mark D. Rife 71006,1537
To: John McCormick 76360,44

Where can I find out about AMDEK's announcement? I'll take a look at Infoworld
and such publications at the library, but I thought you might know where to
look (and when).  Thanks for your help.



#: 159 S3/CDROM Applications
    20-Mar-88  17:12:09
Sb: #23-Greetings, hackers!
Fm: Apple Tech Comm 70007,3366
To: Carlo Stonebanks 71411,15

Well, Apple has a pretty nice little drive.........



#: 160 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  17:51:18
Sb: Hello
Fm: Jean Provencher 71320,1622
To: All

Hi from Montreal. I just scanned the first 150 messages and I get the
impression I'm the only one out there with an IBM3363 WORM drive I hope this is
only an impression, 'cause ....

In any case I'm delighted with my drive, and this forum.



#: 161 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  19:17:33
Sb: #131-Me, a new member
Fm: john ferguson 70205,1216
To: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271 (X)

I ran a series of bbs's starting in Chicago in 1981, moving to washington dc in
1984 and now in Miami in 1988.  I never edited to contents of my open access
system during all those years except for obscenities. HOWEVER, I guess I would
have to agree that allthe "Hi, Bobs" would have to go.  As to technical
editing, who would do it?  I find that a lot of arcane things I know for a
certainty are regularly disputed on some of the forums I watch.  I'd rather
have the whole thing since a search wuld tend to filter out the chaff.  As to
copyrights, I can't believe that we haven't tacitly or expressly given any
rights we might have to our thoughts here to compuserve.  What would I use it
for?  I'm an AutoCAD dealer who frequently finds himself in over his head on
some existing hardware combination whose owner wants as much salvaged as
possible.  It would be really good to look at some of the forums from a year or
two ago to se what the available wisdom was on the subject.  As to Compuserve
not wanting to dimininsh the value of the on-line service, I suspect that they
would not feel that year or two old forums would competer with current stuff.
I guess I'm completely convinced that this would be a good thing and feel that
it would be an ideal cdrom application and one we should ask for.  more
ideas???



#: 162 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  22:38:57
Sb: #126-New Member
Fm: steve michel 70611,1215
To: Berkeley MUG 70007,2271 (X)

Yeah, it seems easier sometimes to communicate electronically.  We can answer
communications at our own time, instead of having to find a time that is
mutually convenient.

No, my stuff is not in the bags any longer...It is in three piles on the floor.
I started to organize yesterday, stopped to read the stuff, then went and did
something else.  Check that, it looks as if the three piles have fallen over
and melded into one mess.

Significant announcements?  Of course the Apple announcement was the most
important, as Apple is the first "first tier" hardware manufacturer to get
behind the technology.  And HyperCard, even with its faults, answers many of
the questions that face the PC world about such things as user interface and
retrieval engines.  The demo of the CD/I technology was interesting, too, if
only to at last see something after several years of promises about this
technology.  What was most interesting about the Microsoft announcements was
how lackluster they were:  neither product represents a breakthrough in
technology and both use the faulty BookShelf user interface.  Several of the
sessions at the show I enjoyed, such as those on "HyperMedia," "MultiMedia,"
and Kucera's talk on the "Texture of Text."

I could go on forever, but I'll leave it at that for now.  I definately look
forward to seeing the PD ROM, and am sorry I couldn't make the meeting the
other night.



#: 163 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  22:48:30
Sb: #150-#New Member
Fm: David Robson 76466,701
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

write only, read mostly

1 Reply


#: 164 S1/General Information
    20-Mar-88  23:23:06
Sb: Greetings!
Fm: James Lastowski 71401,1656
To: All

Hi All, My work at Norton Company based in MA has me developing several
Knowledge Based Systems.  CD-ROM will because well 'connected' with other
advancing technologies and I like to up to speed ASAP.  Any particuarly book
and easy to understand books out there that you might tell me about?

James



#: 165 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  00:02:41
Sb: #140-New Member
Fm: Jonathan L. Mayo 72276,2276
To: Ron Johnson 70116,1416

Ron:
  I have a Hitachi CDR-1503S CD-ROM drive.  The drive is used to read the
information stored on CD-ROMs.  CD-ROMs are 12cm circular discs that have data
recorded on them in a series of microscopic pits spiraling down one side.  The
CD-ROM drive uses a laser to "read" the data from the CD-ROM.  The method is
very similar to audio CD players.
  The drive, including the necessary controller card, cost around $850; I can't
give you an exact figure because I bought a package deal.



#: 166 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  00:37:03
Sb: #142-NEW MEMBER
Fm: Vic Walker 72760,217
To: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620

What I am looking for are markets that haven't been filled yet, where there is
a need.  As you said, a full text product would be a boon for small
organizations, third world countries, and also where a portable database would
be useful.  I shall contact some of these companies and see where I could get
involved.  The market is bound to grow quickly, unless something better comes
to supplant CD-ROM.

                                           Vic Walker



#: 167 S2/Conference/Seminars
    21-Mar-88  00:57:19
Sb: Production
Fm: James T. Sullivan 76210,1244
To: All

I need help - fast!  I own a company that has been involved with nearly all
facets of media production: films, videos, computer graphics, and interactive
media.  I am under contract with a major publisher to provide a "Producer's
Guide to Interactive Media Development".  My book capitalizes on what we are
most familiar with, but I need more precise details for current production
techniques on:



#: 168 S2/Conference/Seminars
    21-Mar-88  01:02:15
Sb: CDROM Production
Fm: James T. Sullivan 76210,1244
To: All

I need help - fast!  I own a company that has been involved with nearly all
facets of media production: films, videos, computer graphics, and interactive
media.  I am under contract with a major publisher to provide a "Producer's
Guide to Interactive Media Development".  My book capitalizes on what we are
most familiar with, but I need more precise details for current production
techniques on:



#: 169 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  07:31:22
Sb: #163-New Member
Fm: Allen Thomson 72757,1325
To: David Robson 76466,701

Does "write only, read mostly" make any sense?



#: 170 S3/CDROM Applications
    21-Mar-88  09:23:00
Sb: INTRODUCTION TO PROJECTS
Fm: BARRY SCHWARTZ 76566,2714
To: ALL

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND THE COMPANY I AM
ASSOCIATED WITH. CIVILIZATION COMMUNICATIONS IS INVOLVED WITH VERTICAL MARKET
PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE OF GREAT INTEREST TO YOUR FORUM STAFF AND MEMBERS.
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SUPPLY YOUR INPUT TO THE FOLLOWING: WE ARE IN NEED OF
CD-ROM AND CD-WORM CAPABILITIES FOR A NETWORK CONFIGURATION THAT WOULD ALLOW US
TO ACCESS DATABASES ALREADY PRODUCED AND IN PLANNED PRODUTION AND TO CREATE OUR
OWN DATABASES IN A NETWORK ENVIORNMENT. WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN THE
STORAGE AND RETRIEVAL CAPABILITIES OF CD-WORM --12 INCH FORMAT-- ANY SYSTEM
INTERGRATORS THAT ARE ON THE CD-FORUM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM. PLEASE SEND ALL OPENING RESPONSES THROUGH THE FORUM OR
EMAIL TO MY ATTENTION VERY TRULY YOURS, BARRY SCHWARTZ 76566,2714



#: 171 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  12:19:52
Sb: #39-New Member
Fm: Reuben Mezrich 72356,252
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

Allen
        Where do you get the WORM drives, and are there also softare drivers
for them that work with the Mac? Reuben



#: 172 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  12:30:46
Sb: #45-New Member
Fm: Reuben Mezrich 72356,252
To: Kevin Conley 73336,1340

Are you aware of WORM drives that have software drivers that work with the Mac?
Reuben



#: 173 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  12:35:19
Sb: #55-XIPHIAS, XEARCH, ETC.
Fm: Reuben Mezrich 72356,252
To: Peter Black 74240,265

Did you write the drivers for the WORM drive yourself, or did it come with the
drive? IsXEARCH available for purchase or use? Reuben



#: 174 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  14:06:25
Sb: Hello
Fm: Lee Lammert 76314,2650
To: All

This is a very interesting subject to me, and our organization. As a new
member, I will be scanning the forum for any and all information regarding the
many possible business opportunities in CDROM. Can anyone provide any guidance
in cost effective publishing for an application?



#: 175 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  14:19:54
Sb: Greetings (& HELP!)
Fm: ZALMAN 72160,1764
To: ALL

Hello everyone!  I work for a Public Affairs firm in D.C. and wer are very
interested in development of a horizontal market CD-ROM product (like
Bookshelf).  We need to find out info. regarding licensing of third party
products (for example, the dictionary and theseaurus had to be licensed for
Bookshelf), what our best bet on retrieval software would be (all interested
software people, just call), and other issues. I would appreciate your input.
If you have any interesting products, leave a message and phone #.  FYI we will
work on PCs only. To those responsible for this BBS, thanks a million and good
luck!



#: 177 S1/General Information
    21-Mar-88  15:05:01
Sb: #101-New Member
Fm: Brian Grimm 73327,1232
To: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620

Just finished reading my messages.  Check out #121.  This looks like the type
of info I need.  Brian